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Offline Trisa

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Snakes - Ochia
« on: May 13, 2012, 01:00:52 PM »
I've just posted about this snake in the General discussion forum but thought I'd put something here too.

 From Google- "Corfu has more snakes per acre than anywhere else in Europe.  But you should not be too worried, most of them are harmless and unless you go trekking through the olive groves you'll seldom see them.  There are, however, two venomous snakes - the horned nosed viper or Ochia (which after 30 years of visiting and living there I have never seen) and small black krait (I have seen two)"

http://goo.gl/Yjcxa
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Re: Snakes - Ochia
« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2012, 01:36:22 PM »
Talking of snakes, can anyone identify this one ? 
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Re: Snakes - Ochia
« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2012, 02:21:37 PM »
Talking of snakes, can anyone identify this one ?

Gilly,

It is possibly a juvenile four-lined snake. Check it against the image on Mat Wilson's site at http://goo.gl/u7H5K

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Re: Snakes - Ochia
« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2012, 04:23:09 PM »
Thanks Bob, yes it does look like thats the one.  It was hanging around our garden on the wall opposite the front door! We came home one night, me and my son walked into the hallway, I spotted it in the corner by the front door!! Apparently, so they all tell me,  I ran out and shut the door on my son, Im sure thats not a correct account! My daughter was ready for the next flight home with me in her suitcase lol

Sadly the poor thing had been shut into the door frame, must have happened as we went out.  Do wonder why it had come into the house though?  Was it looking for food or water?

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Re: Snakes - Ochia
« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2012, 06:01:48 PM »
I reckon it was looking for somewhere warm and dry as it would have sensed the big storm was coming.

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Re: Snakes - Ochia
« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2012, 07:51:37 PM »
Bob and Tris
That's a really good video link you've posted with 'manchester museum' featuring a lot of Corfu's snakes in their 'you tube clips'  and also one on the rather large and unpleasant centepedes! Interesting stuff! :)

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Re: Snakes - Ochia
« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2012, 12:14:29 PM »
There are, however, two venomous snakes - the horned nosed viper or Ochia (which after 30 years of visiting and living there I have never seen) and small black krait (I have seen two)"

http://goo.gl/Yjcxa

I VERY much doubt about the krait observations !  Kraits are a Far-East snake and I believe not found west of  the Indian sub-continent. They  would have to have been deliberately introduced into Corfu which is most unlikely !.  Several times I have asked Matt Wilson, a Corfu herpetologist, about the stories often put about by Corfu residents of small deadly black snakes.  He has of course heard the same.  His explanation is that they are either very young dark versions of vipers, Montpellier Snakes or even slow-worms.

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Re: Snakes - Ochia
« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2012, 07:19:39 PM »
I was told that one of the unusual Corfu snakes  came into the island during the first world war in bales of hay brought for the Serbian army's horses- the hay came from North Africa.

The herpetologist who has been on the island longest is Jean Pierre Wutchert, former manager of the Corfu Palace (where snakes were sometimes seen slithering along corridors having got out of their cages!

Snakes do sometimes come into houses- hence the sale of canisters of chemicals to deter them.  I've only found two on our balcony in many years residence, however when my house was tenanted the tenant said he found them a real nuisance as he had young children.

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Re: Snakes - Ochia
« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2012, 09:54:15 PM »
[quote author=jan

Snakes do sometimes come into houses- hence the sale of canisters of chemicals to deter them.  I've only found two on our balcony in many years residence, however when my house was tenanted the tenant said he found them a real nuisance as he had young children.
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Must admit was quite shocked to discover one inside the house, we always thought they steered well clear of human activity, goes to show.  One Greek friend who lives in Corfu Town said he had one quite large one come into his kitchen! he got it out with a broom and seemed quite shaken by it lol.  Would never have expected snakes in the town!
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Re: Snakes - Ochia
« Reply #9 on: May 22, 2012, 10:06:11 PM »
Hi,
Today there was a bit of a kerfuffle going on next door at my Greek neighbours house. Went out to see what the problem was, and, lo and behold it was a snake. Summarily beheaded by the master of the household and slung into the olive grove. Didn't get chance to see what it was though it had a nicely patterned body. Methinks it may have been a viper, due to all the panic that ensued prior to it's following beheading!!!  :)

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Re: Snakes - Ochia
« Reply #10 on: May 22, 2012, 10:35:48 PM »
Annie, the same happened to us when we lived in our old house! Our next-door-neighbour, Marika, came into the garden! "Ochia, ochia," she screamed. She found the biggest rock she could find and quickly dispatched said snake. She then picked it up and threw it as far as she could.

Imagine our surprise when the next day Adonis came in proudly carrying the same battered snake!. He obviously wanted us to believe that he had caught it all by himself!! Mind you, he has had his fair share of snakes since.
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Re: Snakes - Ochia
« Reply #11 on: May 23, 2012, 10:18:05 AM »
Annie,

I think that you will find the same reaction from our Greek hosts even for slow worms!. I walked up the drive one day to find my builder waiting there to proudly point out the snake that he had killed because it was "very dangerous".

It was a grass snake!

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Re: Snakes - Ochia
« Reply #12 on: May 23, 2012, 10:20:27 AM »
I agree Bob !!

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Re: Snakes - Ochia
« Reply #13 on: May 30, 2012, 09:34:35 AM »
If anyone has a query about snakes contact me and I can give you Jean-Pierre Wutchert's phone number, he is getting on but still an avid herpetologist- with over 50 years experience on Corfu

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Re: Snakes - Ochia
« Reply #14 on: May 06, 2015, 12:50:20 PM »
what is the spray that deters snakes? Is it safe?

We have a lot of snakes about and a viper killed in our bedroom yesterday by our cleaner lady, who is terrified of them. I am quite fond of snakes, but don't want them coming into the house.

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